Please choose the proper category prefix for any
message you post to the discussion group list. Then use all upper-case
(capital) letters within brackets, e.g., [PREFIX] to denote your
subject prefix and distinguish your change of topics from others
previously posted. Hopefully, this will make sorting and/or
filtering by interest(s) more manageable and reading messages less
onerous as the volume grows.
LINE WHEN YOU CHANGE TOPICS
Changing the subject line is really quite simple. Click "respond" to
any message. When the new message window opens on your screen, just
highlight the subject line, tap the "Delete" key, then type in a
subject line prefix (see below) and a subject title that's
appropriate for the topic you want to write about.
Then move your cursor down to the message body where the text from
the old message appears. Highlight it (or "Select All" -- by holding
down the "Ctrl" key and "A" key simultaneously) and tap the "Delete"
key to get a new, clean area in which to compose your new topic's
Or easier yet, just begin a new message thread of your own:
Start with a blank new message window.
Address your message to:
Send it from the e-mail address you used to be subscribed to the
Create an appropriate subject line for your topic, with a proper
subject prefix; see SUBJECT LINE AND PREFIXES above.
Compose your message, then just click "Send."
The Subject line on your message will appear on the discussion group as: [Catalina 22] [PREFIX] Your new topic.
When someone responds to your message, "Re:" will be automatically
generated before [Catalina 22] in the subject line of the
responder's message. [Catalina 22] is also automatically generated
by the listserver host; it's the unique name of this specific list.
Then your fellow subscribers know that a "Re:" message is actually,
honestly, and accurately in response to the specific subject/topic,
and can choose to read, ignore, or delete it depending on their
interest -- and everyone is happy.
Since the design specifics of Catalina 22s have
gone through many changes over the decades -- especially when a
subscriber seeks information among other discussion group members --
he or she should include a signature line (like mine below) at the end
of each message. It's
also just a matter of list courtesy, so we know a little about whose
message we're reading.
Chip Ford --
1974 Swing Keel "Chip Ahoy" #3282
You can learn how to find your
sail/hull number (and year built) by
TO UNSUBSCRIBE YOURSELF FROM THE LIST
If you ever want to be removed from the list,
unsubscribe yourself from this mailing list,
send an e-mail message to . . .
. . . with the following command in the body of your
Leave the subject line blank.
If you intend to unsubscribe yourself temporarily (if going on
vacation, extended business trip, etc.) and want to be resubscribed
When you're ready to come back, either
contact me directly or
use the e-mail address below. If you've already
been "qualified," approved and subscribed once, you don't
need to fill out the application form
again. You should unsubscribe yourself -- but only I can
IF YOU HAVE OTHER
If you ever need to contact the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing
after you've tried, or have questions about the list itself), to reach a
live sailor contact me
directly, or send e-mail to:
Use an appropriate subject, and in the body of your
message state your problem or question. We'll get back to you ASAP.
If you saved my Personal
Welcome Message to you when you were first subscribed -- as I
requested when I welcomed you -- then you have my e-mail address and
PROBLEMS SO FAR
AND THE SOLUTIONS
There's been a little confusion among some members about how to handle addressing a message to this
The practice of copying it (cc or bcc) to other lists, and
copying messages from other lists to this one has already drawn some
complaints from other subscribers.
Simply put, don't copy what you send to this list to any other
list, and; don't copy what you send to other lists to this
primary reason why I bothered to create this list
and continue to provide and maintain it was and remains e-mail address security:
if you copy your message or response to the Sailnet list,
you've just defeated that very purpose and put others at risk! So
why am I bothering?
Second, nobody on other lists has a clue what you’re talking about when you send a copy of your response to something on this list, or
vice versa. Besides, many if not all of us are subscribers to the other lists as well and don't need or want two or three copies of everything you write.
If you want to participate in this Catalina 22 discussion group list, then send your messages and responses
If you want to send a message or response to any other list, use
only that other list's address -- do not copy it to
this list too.
BOUNCED MESSAGES FROM YOUR ADDRESS
If you're going to be away for any length of
time, please unsubscribe yourself until
your return. When you're ready to receive discussion group
messages again, contact me
directly off-list and I'll immediately resubscribe you.
If you don't, when your e-mail box becomes full
list messages will be bounced back to my ISP and forwarded to me --
not only every time a new message is sent to the discussion group
but every time your e-mail provider tries to resend the same message
on to you, exponentially numerous times. This will quickly fill
my mailbox and jam it up. If this occurs for more than a
day, you will be unsubscribed from the discussion group list.
When you return and realize you're not getting list
mail any more, you will then have to contact me anyway -- but
The server that hosts this discussion list has a
limit on message size (the length or content of your message) of not
greater than 50,000 characters. This is more than sufficient for any
message created in plain text. HTML messages use up more space with
hidden coding, but still should present no problems. The problem
enters when someone tries to attach a file or photo. That will not go
through -- it will only bounce -- so please don't bother both of us by
LIST RULE: FORWARDED ADDRESSES
Three strikes you're out. If anyone forwards their
e-mail to another
"alias" address and it bounces three times (and I can identify them), they will be unsubscribed until and unless they provide a legitimate and functioning
real e-mail address. They will of course need to resubscribe, and to accomplish that will require a phone call assuring me that the new address is legitimate.
(My phone number is included in the header of the "Welcome" message
you received when you first were subscribed -- the one I asked you at that
time to save.)
USE YOUR CORRECT E-MAIL ADDRESS WHEN SENDING
Please be careful when you post messages to this list that you use the e-mail address with which you have been subscribed. I've been getting a number of bounced messages from subscriber-members who have multiple
e-mail addresses and are using the wrong one to post to
the list; thus it is rejected and bounced to me. I have been contacting them off-list informing them, or forwarding their message to the list for them.
Due to the volume of messages and number of subscribers, that practice
has been discontinued. If you post a message to the list and it doesn't show up, check the address you used to send it.
CREATING FILTERS AND
You might want to consider creating a filter and
new folder in your e-mail program so discussion group traffic is
sent directly there instead of clogging your active Inbox.
Each e-mail program has its unique way of accomplishing this, so
there's no universal advice -- but if you ask about it among the
other subscribers on the list, you'll probably find the answer for
No commercial advertising is permitted in messages
posted to the list: sale or barter of Catalina 22 parts,
equipment, or boats is the one and only exception.
Posting of commercial advertising is grounds for immediate termination
of a member-subscriber from the discussion group.
LIST ARCHIVE OR DIGEST FORMAT?
There is no list archive available due to privacy
and security considerations. For more details or information on a
digest format click here.
YOUR "DISCUSSION LIST MEMBERS, IN THEIR OWN WORDS" SUBMISSION
A section of this website contains "Discussion list members, in their own
words." It provides a photo of a list member and his/her
biography in their own words.
To submit an entry:
First, you must be an authorized subscriber to the
Next, your bio text should be about 150± words.
(Please, keep it reasonably short -- not "War and Peace")
Take a look at the page before you start putting yours
together to get a feel for its length.
I reserve the right to edit for accuracy, length, and format -- and for your security. Don't put anything in your bio that you don't want the world to read -- and don't include your e-mail address in your bio text; I will
definitely remove that for your own security.
If you want to participate,
USE MY PERSONAL E-MAIL
DO NOT send it to this list address or hit "Reply" -- it will
Send along your 150± words describing yourself and attach the photo you want posted alongside your bio.
Your photo should be as large (file size) as possible. (I cannot edit
it up if it's too small, but I can edit it down if it's too large.)
to my personal e-mail address.
The photo should be of you -- not just your
boat. We on this list all know what Catalina 22s look like: we all own
purpose of this page is to get to know more about you and each
take a look at the page
to see examples of what we're looking for.
There is another page available, if you want to
also include a photo of your boat, "Discussion
List Members' Boats," at the time you participate in "Discussion
List Members in Their Own Words" or any time afterward.
There is no charge for a subscription. Like so much else
we do with our boats, it’s a labor of
love. But any and all contributions to help
defray the cost of maintaining this service will of course be
gratefully accepted, and you will be duly entered on the roles as a
HOW LISTS EVOLVE
"The Natural Life Cycle of
Mailing Lists," by Kat Nagel